Unix vs Windows
This is a very long email I composed extolling the virtues of Unix as compared to Windows.
From email@example.com Sat Aug 31 23:50:49 1996 Received: from rohan.sdsu.edu (firstname.lastname@example.org [184.108.40.206]) by straylight.connectnet.com (8.7.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id XAA15296 for ; Sat, 31 Aug 1996 23:50:42 -0700 Received: from straylight.connectnet.com (straylight.connectnet.com [220.127.116.11]) by rohan.sdsu.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA25026; Sat, 31 Aug 1996 23:50:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by straylight.connectnet.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) id XAA15290 for ths-outgoing; Sat, 31 Aug 1996 23:50:03 -0700 Received: from localhost (treed@localhost) by straylight.connectnet.com (8.7.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id XAA15285; Sat, 31 Aug 1996 23:49:37 -0700 Date: Sat, 31 Aug 1996 23:49:34 -0700 (PDT) From: "Tracy R. Reed" To: Darin Reed , Jim Farquharson , email@example.com, Charlie Subject: Re: Winblows Vs.Eunuchs. (fwd) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: firstname.lastname@example.org Precedence: bulk Status: RO X-Status: This is a very long email I composed extolling the virtues of Unix as compared to Windows. I spent most of a morning writing it to a clueless user who didn't even bother to reply back to me. Since I spent so much time on it and hate to see such a marvelous composition wasted I shall now inflict it on you in the hope that you may attain enlightenment and recognize the One True(tm) Operating System. ---------- Tracy Reed http://rohan.sdsu.edu/home/treed http://www.linux.org - Escape the Gates of Hell ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Fri, 30 Aug 1996 10:59:07 -0700 From: "Tracy R. Reed" To: Michael & Michelle Martinez Subject: Re: Winblows Vs.Eunuchs. Michael & Michelle Martinez thoughtlessly babbled: > > Personally, as I have said before, I prefer dos. > > But I see you guys going on and on and on and on about unix this and > unix that and unix the other. > > So my question is this: Isn't "better" a matter of opinion? I have [This email is quite long, and I've spent most of the morning working on it. I do this because you seem like a bright and intelligent person who has not yet learned the beauty of Unix. That is a crying shame.] In many cases, what you said is quite true. But in this case, it is not. Overall, unix is definitely better. The only field which windows excells in is ease of use. So we'll just say that windows is by far easier to use (although a properly set up unix machine *can* be as easy to use, if someone else administrates it and you are just a user) right up front. > been usining IBM pc's for 10 years (it it noteworthy though, that most > of my knowledge is in hardware.), and I am not connected to a network, > so therefore, why would I find unix useful at all? I like to play How often does your windows machine crash? Can you count on it always being there for you? If my unix machine (I'm using Solaris on this machine at work, but I use Linux on my personal machine at home. Those are just two brands of Unix.) were to crash and lock up right now, I'd die of shock. My unix machine at home was running for a month straight under heavy load and didn't even hickup. It would have gone for longer if I didn't have to reboot it to install some RAM. The machine I am using here at work has been up for over 3 months now!!! At my old job we had win95 machines. They crashed every day. And couldn't even do as much with the same hardware. They were painfully slow compared to my unix machines which ran on lesser hardware. > games, I run wordprocessing utilities, some business stuff, and a few > other things, and all of it works just fine under winblows. I will Sure, it works just fine under winblows. But what sort of winblows machine is it? Windows is quite inefficient. It is huge, takes up gobs of ram, is slow, doesn't multitask worth crap (it only *barely* multitasks at all), and has tons of backwards compatibility in it which makes things extremely complicated and limits what you can do with it. If your machine were running unix, I bet you could do the exact same things you are doing now with a cpu that is only half as fast (maybe less). And there are some excellent games (quake, doom, lots of other stuff) as well as word processors, business software, anything you can imagine. > admit that I don't have extensive knowledge of unix, but again, I > haven't found the need to learn, and I dare say, neither have most of > you. I do know that unix is very large, as os's go, and don't go > there, I don't use 95, and that most of it's power is lost to > individual users because unix is a networking operating system. I > suppose that that comes in handy if you like to forge headers and > whatnot, but I am giving you guys more credit than that, and I hope > that most of you are over 13 years old and are above such nonsense. You haven't found the need to learn (like most people) because you don't know what it can do for you. UNIX is actually much smaller than Win95. I can get Linux up and running, multitasking, etc using just two 1.44M floppy disks. That's an ENTIRE OS on two disks! But that does NOT include the graphical interface. That`ll be another 10M at most. So I can get a whole unix OS plus GUI in 12M easy. How big is win95 now? However, most unix OS's come WITH a ton of applications! When I installed Linux, it took up 300M on my HD. 12 of that is the OS, GUI, etc. The rest is editors, compilers, networking software, huge (powerful) programming languages, games, utilities, LOADS of stuff that would cost you tens (hundreds?) of thousands of dollars if you went out and bought all of this stuff and set up a similarly equipped Windows machine. What does windows come with? Notepad, some com software (really basic), a couple games, and that's about it. To do anything useful you'll need to buy extra stuff. I got nearly EVERYTHING I need in my Linux distribution. Anything else I can ftp off the net for free. What do I do with the networking capabilities? I run my own email mailing lists to hold discussions on my favorite topics, I share files with my friends, I send and receive email on my own server, all sorts of things that make life faster and easier. In fact, this email I am sending you is being written in the netscape news reader. I am at work, but I normally read news at home so that is where my preferences, what newsgroups I read, etc are stored. I didn't want to have to copy all of that over here and copy it back later, so what did I do? I telnetted from here to my machine at home, told it to display any graphical programs I may run on my screen here instead of the one at home, and ran netscape on my machine at home. A second later the netscape screen appeared on my screen here at work. So Netscape is running off of my cpu and hard drive at home, but using my screen here at work because that is where I am physically located. Let's see windows do that! You can't even log into a windows machine remotely except for some really basic file sharing. > So tell me, why would I want to use unix? If you aren't connected to > a network, don't respond to this, as I will not believe that you know > what you are talking about. Every one of my unix machines is connected to a network. :) Some are on T1's (work) and some on 28.8 (home). > I believe that in the future, almost every computer will be hooked up > to one form of network or another, but that time is not now, and even > when that time comes, Unix will be replaced by a better os anyway. Guess how long Unix has been around? Nearly 30 years. Why hasn't it been replaced by something better? Because there is nothing better, and probaly won't be for another 30 years. Guess how many *brands* of Unix there are running at this very moment? You see, there is no ONE operating system called "Unix". Unix is a whole class of operating systems. There's Solaris, SunOS, IRIX, HP/UX, OSF/1, AIX, Linux, SCO, FreeBSD, NetBSD, UnixWare, Unicos, etc. etc. There's probably a couple dozen different flavors of Unix out there at the moment. There's a kind of Unix to run on virtually any cpu out there. All of these OS's are made by different companies. Some are given away completely free of charge, like Linux. They all adhere to a loose standard so they are all somewhat compatible and look pretty much the same. What is the secret behind the success of Unix? Source code. Most programs in the unix world are distributed as source code. And most of that source code is freely available and can be looked at by anyone, modified, improved, and recompiled on whatever machine you like. Say a big cpu manufacturer (we'll call them SpIntel :) decides to make a new microchip taking advantage of all of the latest technologies and it's gonna be screaming fast. The marketing guys say, "Wait!!! If you make it so different and modern, Windows95 won't run on it anymore and nobody will buy it because there is no OS for it and there's no software to support it! We'll have to write it all ourselves and people will have to learn how to use it all over again!" The engineers at SpIntel who design the cpu say, "Shit." Then they say, "Wait! Let's run Unix on it! Then all we need to do is write our own optimizing compiler for it (which you always have to do anyway), recompile our existing version of Unix for this new cpu and Voila! Instant OS! Then we recompile all of the word processors, etc for the new CPU and sell them as applications to go along with the OS!" So you get a state of the art cpu, and operating system that fully supports it (thanks to the compiler), software to go along with it (again thanks to the compiler), yet it all looks the same and everyone knows how to use it. Want to make a change to improve the OS or the software? Just change the source code and recompile it for whatever cpu's you want it to run on. However, Microsoft decided to do the exact opposite. Not only did they make some bogus design decisions in their OS to start with, but they decided to make it all backwards compatible and capable of running the same software for which NOBODY outside of Microsoft can get the source code. The worst thing is that this has gone on for 15 years now. Your PPro running Windows95 can still run the same software the old 8088 ran way back in 1981. But they've tried to add many new and modern features to the cpu and the OS while trying very hard not to lose backwards compatibility. There's TONS of things they would love to do which would greatly increase performance and reliability, but it would cost compatibility, and they just can't have that because it's the only thing they have going for them. Thus the entire OS is extremely complicated, huge, slow, and may fall apart at any moment. If all went well, you should now be enlightened. :) ---------- Tracy Reed http://rohan.sdsu.edu/home/treed http://www.linux.org - Escape the Gates of Hell